US vs German Squads (Mid-1944) Who was Superior? | Animated History


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US vs German Squads (Mid-1944) Who was Superior? | Animated History



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Behind the Scenes: https://youtu.be/2VLHW19BIfs

To begin a new series for the channel, we seek to answer this question: between the United States and Germany, who had the superior infantry in World War 2? Using historical analysis to gather data on their weaponry, tactics, training, and other key factors, we have developed a program to simulate thousands of battles under various conditions and determine an answer. Will the American M1 Garand outclass the German Karabiner 98k? Will the United States be outsmarted by German tactics? Cast your vote, enjoy the video, and contribute your own thoughts in the comments below!

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Bibliography:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a24537/m1-garand-world-war-two/

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2016/10/13/john-brownings-automatic-rifle/

https://archive.org/details/Fm7-10/page/n3 page 139-142

https://archive.org/details/Fm7-10/page/n5 pages 121-126

https://www.thoughtco.com/karabiner-98k-the-wehrmachts-rifle-2361242

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/mg-42-machine-gun

https://archive.org/details/TheGermanSquadInCombat/page/n13

https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals/7/Primer-on-Urban-Operation/Documents/BlockByBlock_TheChallengesOfUrbanOperations.pdf

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  1. Protect yourself online by using ExpressVPN. Get 3 extra months free by using this link: https://www.expressvpn.com/armchair
    Which two nations do you want to see covered next? If you guys enjoyed this video, we can release our battle simulator on our website!
    *SPOILERS*

    BEHIND THE SCENES: https://youtu.be/2VLHW19BIfs
    An explanation to the American victory:
    You are taking highly trained, freshly equipped, and battle-hardened (Italy & Africa) American troops, against mid-1944 static German infantry in Normandy. These troops don't even have enough supplies to be maneuvered, hence the name static. They were not the disciplined soldiers you would find on the eastern front. Regular infantry in this region comprised of foreign conscripts and wounded Germans. If we were talking about Grenadiers, Waffen SS, Panzergrenadiers, Volksgrenadiers, Fallschirmjaeger, or even just standard German infantry from 1940-1943 we'd probably see a German victory.
    Even still, we came to the conclusion these quickly thrown together units would win 46% of the time, which is extremely impressive. In fact, our simulation stated that the Germans would win 55% of the time in rural environments, when the Americans are being engaged at further ranges, negating one of the main advantages of the fast-firing semi-automatic M1 Garand.

    A note about the simulation:
    The team did not blindly depend on the simulation to write the script. The battles included were completely made up and animated by hand to serve as a narrative for a video. There was no church tower or storming of the tower in the simulation program. The engagements were constructed to reflect our research about how the two country's squads behaved. The simulation does take into account for morale, suppression, intelligence, training, etc., however, it does not have any visuals, it just provides data and numbers and was calibrated by our researchers. You can look at our sources for this video – even if we hadn't designed our battle simulator, we would have presented the video in the exact same manner and arrived at a similar conclusion.

    There was no actual footage, and I doubt my audience wants to see me present code for 10 minutes. That's something I can show on my side channel if there's interest. At no point did we claim we had scientific information, hence the disclaimer, "this is just our opinion" at the beginning of the video.
    Lastly, we make these videos to both inform and to entertain. In real life, these types of engagements would have lasted hours, but we've condensed the battles to make them easier and more interesting to watch and understand…

  2. I don`t buy for a minute this use of simulations to judge military tactics. Instead why wouldn't you analyze documents and reports of actual commanders like the famous Lt winters take on the German artillery position at brecourt during d day

  3. I'm curious if a matchup could be done between a Soviet sapper squad against a German Waffen SS squad, where the Germans would get an additional Kar98k sniper while their regular riflemen receive Gewheir Semi-Auto rifles instead, eliminating their bolt-action disadvantage in close quarters?

  4. I loved the video, but it was highly, whats the word, situational? also, what happened to the G-43? the german semi auto rifle, or like so many have pointed out, grenades? there was a lot here that just made it…eh for historical accuracy.
    A lot and I mean A lot of victories or defeats came from the terrain and the weather, it plays a big part. honestly watch this video with a grain of salt.

  5. Some documentary interviewing Germans soldiers, one of them said : ''These americans were real amateurs, when patroling the field, they were looking up towards the horizon and even the sky… it made it really hard to shoot them cause they were soo easy to kill''. German had more training, better equipement, and some had real war experience… while the USA were mostly fresh recruits. The scale of the Allies industry and population made a difference in the end has the Germans had no more industries, no more ressources and start recruit kids to fill the ranks. The fact they were in the middle of the ''World'' made them vulnerable from all sides, and ''continental'' … France suffered from the same treatement after the Napoleon wars

  6. In 1944 an average German squad also included a few guys with Stg44 and Gewehr-43 semi-auto rifles as well. So, the total firepower was roughly equal to each other.

  7. You realize the grenadier would just fire a rifle mounted grenade into the bell tower to take out the MG42? Right? And why do you show guys just running out into the open and start shooting?

  8. German. The A.E.F. were well trained soldiers who would test the meddle of the Wehrmacht, but in a true fight against the Axis war machine the United States stood no chance. They were lucky that Germany was forced to fight massive Eastern Front war with Russia while having to deal with an American invasion in the West due to the stupidity of Japanese command

  9. I guess just an opinion itself but I think the best you could do for a topic like this is probably find 1st hand accounts of soldiers from every faction in the context of whatever particular skirmish or battle they took place in and then an analysis of more objective measures like logistics and equipment.

  10. I found a truth,Countries close to the United States will weaken,Because America likes to give priority,Because the United States is best at asking for money from its allies,I want my country to stay away from America

  11. In the small presentation for the MG42 the speaker says "achtzehnhundertfünfzig Schuss" which means "1850", not "250".
    So the Amount when the barrell should be changed isn´t 250 but 1850.
    Aside from that – Great Video.

  12. One issue that is important, but difficult to quantify is experience across the ranks. The Germans had been fighting in ground operations since 1939, while the bulk of the Americans had only been fighting since 1944. Yes, we fought in North Africa, Sicily, and Italy, but most of those troops were still tied up in the Italian front when we landed in Normandy. Even the 101st Air Borne had no combat experience as a Division until 1944. Discounting all other factors, and just looking at experience levels, the Americans were gaining on a daily basis, while at best, the Germans had leveled off.

  13. I didn't know if I loved or hated your videos. This one did it for me. I love them. Great story telling, creativity, and command of facts. One thing, the Americas had the opportunity to study German tactics as part of their training. That always help.

  14. In actual, US soldiers saw a german gun firing, called in a boatload of air strikes. Then mortars and then moved. Germans were using those same resources on the eastern front and losing so they lost the western front too.

  15. The MG-42 fires too fast. Its rate of fire is unnecessary. The same results are achieved with significantly slower machine guns. The Germans wasted too much ammunition and had to change the barrels, which is when Americans/Canadians/British charged the nests.